David Saks: Reason #3 Why Facebook Sucks : Massive Spam Attacks That Include Pornography, Violent Graphic Images & Dangerous Malware

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Reason #3 Why Facebook Sucks : Massive Spam Attacks That Include Pornography, Violent Graphic Images & Dangerous Malware

f'book sheep

 

Millions of F'book users were trashed, slammed and infected by a massive spam attack this week.

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If you use the worthless program you were probably one of them.

You received tons of bogus, weird looking links and were treated to offensive, graphic pornographic videos and violent images in your inbox, or more appropriately, trashbinbox.

Check this story out:

(click here)

You're going to see more of this garbage on F'book, and lots, and lots, and lots of it.

Facebook sucks...PERIOD !

F'book and other "Web 2.0" sites are easy targets for these slimeball attacks because they generate massive quantities of trashy content from outside sources.

When you're in your F'book settings, remove unwanted F'book apps.

Some apps will knock you down with the malware and spyware that's embedded.

Malware can install a dangerous app on your computer and you'll never know it.

And it's happened to millions of F'book users.


The best way to protect yourself is to kill your F'book account, run a malware / spyware program everytime you log into the F'book junkpile (which any smart person would do), or look for a program that's not infected with millions of hacker users, and F'Book is sanctuary and a consecrated place for hackers where the sacred objects of cyber terrorism are kept

These attacks will happen again, and again, and again and might not be publicized as well as they have been in the last couple of days.

Something you can bank on, or, should I say, go bust on !

And I reiterate, for the third time:

I never have used, and never will use, Facebook, ever.

But for those who challenge my entry on the grounds that I'm unqualified to speak such things, because I don't have an account, let me remind you that reviewing the F'book platform is not the same as using it, although those who study that coveted branch of philosophy that analyzes inference, known as logic, will disagree on the grounds that visiting F'book for the purpose of creating this entry is the same as using it.

I acquiesce summarily with that premise exclusively.




David Saks



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Comment balloon 97 commentsDavid Saks • November 19 2011 06:52AM

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Facebook's platform is a valuable tool you should warm up to, and work around the glitches any one line site has. Too many eyeballs in there to fool yourself that you don't need to be on Facebook.

Posted by Andrew Mooers | 207.532.6573, Northern Maine Real Estate-Aroostook County Broker (MOOERS REALTY) over 8 years ago

Enjoy counting the rewards while your defragging your system and dumping the spam.

Posted by David Saks ((retired)) over 8 years ago

Very controversial post. . . I can just imagine what our world would look like if everybody had the same mentality. .

FB get attacked because it is the #1 social media in the world. . and if it ended tomorrow, something else will replace it.. . and you are back to the same place. 

Accepting the risks and obtaining its benefits . . .is probably a better path. . 

Posted by Fernando Herboso - Broker for Maxus Realty Group, 301-246-0001 Serving Maryland, DC and Northern VA (Maxus Realty Group - Broker 301-246-0001) over 8 years ago

David...

I guess it's a reflection of the society that we live in. And it is NOT pretty. And it is NOT going to get any better soon.

Posted by Richard Weisser, Richard Weisser Retired Real Estate Professional (Richard Weisser Realty) over 8 years ago

Fernando, I won't lose any sleep if F'book disappears. It's a nuisance.

Posted by David Saks ((retired)) over 8 years ago

I think it's time that criminal penalties include jail time for these schmucks.  I watched my sons computer die a year ago from a virus that just couldn't get stopped until it had toasted everything.  It's time to get serious with these folks.

Posted by Mike Cooper, GRI, Your Neighborhood Real Estate Sales Pro (Cornerstone Business Group Inc) over 8 years ago

No argument with that, Richard. The F'book spam attack endangers life and health.

Posted by David Saks ((retired)) over 8 years ago

I hope that the FBI and the Justice Department become more aggressive with F'Book, Mike. F'book is responsible for opening the door for the calculated use of violent cyber attacks against civilians and commerce by terrorists seeking to attain goals that are political, religious or ideological in nature.

Posted by David Saks ((retired)) over 8 years ago

Hi David. It's Senior year for many. The gauntlet is down, even if only to the individual. Find a way to disrupt what many use carelessly and get your 15 minutes of fame.
I personally do not think Facebook in itself is a bad thing, but the offshoot apps certainly have no purpose but to cause trouble.
Even if you only have a basic presence, it is often better to be familiar with the enemy than to hide from it.
Bruce

 

Posted by Bruce Kunz, REALTOR®, Brick & Howell NJ Homes for Sale (C21 Solid Gold Realty, Brick, NJ, 732-920-2100) over 8 years ago

IMHO * Fb is for kids - I'm more focused on Google+ for my business and building relationships.  My sister alerts me when there is activity on our family Fb group

Posted by Wallace S. Gibson, CPM, LandlordWhisperer (Gibson Management Group, Ltd.) over 8 years ago

Very interesting and the comments, too.   Perhaps I should focus on google+

Posted by Bud & Beth McKinney, Cary/Raleigh/Apex NC - The Team That Cares, RE/MAX United (RE/MAX UNITED) over 8 years ago

I agree with Wallace. My FB present is non existence. Spam is everywhere but I do spend my time in other places than FB. 

Posted by Frank Rubi, FrankRubiRealEstate.com (Frank Rubi Real Estate, LLC) over 8 years ago

If one wears the enemies clothes then they become the enemy, Bruce, if only through appearance. I disagee with you. F'book is absolutely a bad thing in a progressive state of decay full of the impairment of virtue. F'book is unrestrained by convention or morality.

Posted by David Saks ((retired)) over 8 years ago

Wallace, F'book should be at the top of the list of sites that kids should be prevented from accessing. The news is flooded daily with reports of children that have been exploited by predators on F'book. 

Posted by David Saks ((retired)) over 8 years ago

There are lot's of safe, great. free programs and webpages that you can use to create your own social networking, like Freeservers, Bud & Beth.

Posted by David Saks ((retired)) over 8 years ago

Sounds fine, Frank. Nice to hear from you. Hope all is well down in the "Big Easy". Our football team had a nice time with Tulane a couple of weeks ago.

Posted by David Saks ((retired)) over 8 years ago

Wow.  So I guess you don't like Facebook?  LOL!  A lot of our business is generated through this site so we will continue to play over there with the other kids.  :)

Posted by Amanda Christiansen, Christiansen Group Realty (Christiansen Group Realty (260)704-0843) over 8 years ago

David, I'm not a Facebook fan, but I think every social media site is or will be a target. ActiveRain has spam attacks just about every day. Maybe not as extreme, but they are here. Spammers and hackers come from all over the world. It will be hard to track every one of them down.

Posted by Michael Setunsky, Your Commercial Real Estate Link to Northern VA over 8 years ago

When I first signed on I used Farmville.......that stopped about a year ago and all the apps I had added were deleted at that time........I use it to link my blog posts and check up on family and friends..........other than that, it is indeed pretty useless and something I am NOT a big fan of!

Posted by Barbara-Jo Roberts Berberi, MA, PSA, TRC - Greater Clearwater Florida Residential Real Estate Professional, Palm Harbor, Dunedin, Clearwater, Safety Harbor (Charles Rutenberg Realty) over 8 years ago

Ya' think, Christiansen's ? You might want to take your ball and go to another playground one day after the F'book boogeyman crashes your computer with spam and porno.

Posted by David Saks ((retired)) over 8 years ago

I have been and will continue to use facebook. Don't blame the program, blame the creators. If facebook goes away, they would find another way to attack people. If you want to completly rid everyone of these guys then lets just shut downt the whole internet and go back to using paper.

That being said, I am learnig more and using Google+ also. But I do get business facebook and I have reunited with many old firends I lost over the years.

Posted by Scott Fogleman, New Home Team (New Home Team 804-573-9592) over 8 years ago

David, I can see your argument but I would also throw any other social media network into the same category. The problem isn't a secret that Facebook and Google has always been greyhat about their security settings and changes.

The problem is the millions that use the service just do not care nor pay attention to what information they leak out or give away for free (by downloading software or by downloading apps). This can extend to Android and Ios products as well. Then, when something like this hits the national news, everyone starts screaming.

Free products just isn't free anymore, we pay with our privacy. How many people do you know that actually reads the Terms of Usage / User Agreements before using a service?

If someone is careless enough to mix their Facebook profile for pleasure + business, then this type of  hijacking will happen and continue.

 

 

Posted by David H, David H. (www.orlandoASAPhomes.com) over 8 years ago

Well, I think your solution is kind of extreme, but to each his own. I guess I was lucky to have not seen any of the nasty stuff you describe, although I did see a couple people mention it. The two main issues that cause people problems like this on FB are being hacked and clicking on something you shouldn't have. According to the article you linked to, the current problem seems to be caused by clicking on suspicious links. Being careful what you click on is always prudent, regardless of what site you're on, or even in your own email account. To avoid getting hacked, make sure you use a strong password and change it on a regular basis, and you should be fine. I was hacked back when I first started using FB in 2007 and it was because I used a wimpy password. Once I changed it to a much stronger one I've never had another problem.

Running malware/spyware/antivrus programs on your computer is something everyone should be doing anyway, regardless of if you're on FB or not. To not use those programs is begging for trouble.

It's an unfortunate fact of internet life that attacks such as these will always be around, but they need not dictate how you interact online. If you take appropriate defensive measures and use caution and common sense, there should be no need to completely rule out using Facebook or any other site that you use for business or entertainment. 

Posted by Pat & Wayne Harriman, Broker/Owners, Wallingford CT Real Estate (Harriman Real Estate, LLC (203) 672-4499) over 8 years ago

Michael, there's something to said for accountability; and accountability isn't synonymous with anonymity, which is a distinctive, classifiable hacker attribute. ActiveRain has a well-defined set of parameters under which the natural process of communication must be conducted, and these parameters demonstrate responsibility. F'book does not.

Posted by David Saks ((retired)) over 8 years ago

Barbara-Jo, there are better resources than F'book, and safer.

Posted by David Saks ((retired)) over 8 years ago

Your choice, Scott. The day is coming when the "F" icon will damage business and commerce. A preview of that day was November 15.

Posted by David Saks ((retired)) over 8 years ago

David, I always enjoy your FB posts as I am definitely not a fan of FB!  I use it to link my blog posts but other than that, I have absolutely no use for this nonsense!

Posted by Lisa Dunham, Associate Broker, Alexandria Virginia Real Estate over 8 years ago

The crazy part of yoru blog for me. I get more spam on my AR blogs, than I do Facebook. Last week, over 100 spammed responses on my blogs. I reported to AR. None so far this week. Hopefully, the problem is solved.

Posted by Joe Petrowsky, Your Mortgage Consultant for Life (Mortgage Consultant, Right Trac Financial Group, Inc. NMLS # 2709) over 8 years ago

Social exchanges, opinions, attitudes, etc, are what these platforms exploit, David. The behavior of transacting within a certain group is the branded character of any social network. The character of F'book is profanely diffuse and corrupt by intemperance.

Posted by David Saks ((retired)) over 8 years ago

If you have your settings set to https instead of http you can avoid most of it. I didn't have any of that junk on my post, pages, newsfeed, etc. As it is the number 1 social media platform it is also a way to reach a large number of buyers and / or sellers. A good bit of my referral business has come from facebook.

To each his own, but I just can't figure out why someone that "has never used, and never will use Facebook" is qualified to talk about its benefits or drawbacks. 

Posted by Home Loan Search.Online (Home Loan Search Online) over 8 years ago

It's a shame that these louts spoil everything on line.

Posted by Brian Schulman, Lancaster County PA RealEstate Expert 717-951-5552 (Coldwell Banker Residential Brokerage, Lancaster PA) over 8 years ago

Extreme measure for extreme hackers, Pat, Wayne. Many F'book users have a very poor ability to understand or recover from the experience of being hacked piecemeal by a cyber-terror onslaught which includes the rapid and continuous delivery of destructive source code. I have many thousands of hours of programming experience and have seen, battled and repaired the damage. F'book is just a free billboard to the gullible, unwary user not alert to danger or deception.

Posted by David Saks ((retired)) over 8 years ago

The majority of the time when people have a problem with spam on facebook, it's because they don't THINK before clicking on a link.  Probably the same people that click on all of the spam emails that show up in their inbox.

This is not a facebook problem, it's an internet problem.  Are you giving that up too?

Posted by Lisa Heindel, New Orleans Real Estate Broker (Crescent City Living LLC) over 8 years ago

Nice to hear from you, Lisa.

Posted by David Saks ((retired)) over 8 years ago

It happens, Joe. It was a small problem a couple of years ago in AR.

Posted by David Saks ((retired)) over 8 years ago

When you think about how many Realtors (and folks in other industries as well) who rely on Facebook as a big part of their social networking & marketing strategy) it's scary.  We're inundated by messages from marketing gurus about the need for social networking in our marketing plan.  But social networking sites are definitely not safe from cyber attacks. Great post!

Posted by Eric Kodner, CRS, Madeline Island Realty, LaPointe, WI 54850 - (Madeline Island Realty) over 8 years ago
I stopped F'booking when I realized I don't give an F what someone I went to high school with 20 years ago ate for dinner.
Posted by Greg Moore over 8 years ago

Sorry if it ruffles your feathers a bit, W.Darrell, but perhaps "use" is a word out of context by this humble example. I've seen F'book, I've examined it's cookie-cutter web delivery, I've seen the boring and unvarying habitual methods and procedures harnessed and exploited by it's clueless flock. And I call it "morbid curiosity", not usage. I've never used F'book for business, communication, social networking or to search for recipes for Armenian cabbage rolls, and never will. My interest in F'book is forensic. This should make it easier for you to accept the attribute you've required that has to be met to comply with your standards of qualification to derail and debunk F'book, and legally, without platform intrusion. If it doesn't I won't lose any sleep.

 

Posted by David Saks ((retired)) over 8 years ago

well now norton virus has facebook scans

Posted by Paul Gapski, 619-504-8999,#1 Resource SD Relo (Berkshire Hathaway / Prudential Ca Realty) over 8 years ago

Lisa, unsolicited email is a crises. I've spoken to several area pro's who complain about the massive quanitities of unsolicited email they receive. I've been told that every time you log into your F'book account unsolicited email starts coming. The F'book servers were exploited by cyber slobs. F'book users were tricked into copying, pasting and executing “malicious javascript” into their browser URL bars that started a wave of nasty spam. Would you subscribe to any social network that provides space to spammer/hacker forums ? F'book's not the internet...it's a small part of it, and not a not a very healthy part, at that.

Posted by David Saks ((retired)) over 8 years ago

Nice to hear from you, Eric.

Posted by David Saks ((retired)) over 8 years ago

Funny, Greg. Thanks for posting.

Posted by David Saks ((retired)) over 8 years ago

Paul, Norton rewrites registry entries that can compromise your OS, and when renewal time comes they're relentless about hounding you for subscription charges. It reminds me of prohibition gangsters who threatened to burn down a saloon if you didn't buy their liquor or pay for their protection. If you use Windows, and keep the software updated with all of the security and operating system updates, the Windows firewall is excellent. CCleaner is a free tool for keeping your computer clean of temporary files, history and cookies. Spybot is an excellent free program for killing malware.

Posted by David Saks ((retired)) over 8 years ago

I mostly agree with Lisa. It's not so much a FB problem as an Internet situation.

And I feel left out. I didn't receive any spam on my FB page.

Posted by Jon Quist, Tucson's BUYERS ONLY Realtor since 1996 (REALTY EXECUTIVES ARIZONA TERRITORY) over 8 years ago

I appreciate the information and I always try to be on look out...If you have never been on facebook then how can you be so sure of its uselessness?

Posted by Chuck Carstensen, Minnesota Real Estate Expert (RE/MAX Results) over 8 years ago

David - ahaa somebody said it finally.... We are on FB but only in a limited capacity in that we feed our blogs there and turn off all apps. So we never get those unsolicited emails or other spammy thingy's... I feel safe as long as I practice common sense as I do when I get those emails in my in-box on my email accounts. We think it's just the lack of common sense that people get this kind of junk and if you know not to click on something mysterious and keep it https secured that we have not gotten these attacks.... At least so far.... Good to hear an opinion to the contrary for a change.... no matter how controversial it may be..... I too found out where a friend of mine from 3rd grade is going to dinner tonight. Now I can sleep better...   But now tell us how you really feel....lol

Posted by Robert and Lisa Hammerstein -201-315-8618, Bergen County NJ Real Estate (Keller Williams Valley Realty) over 8 years ago

Don't worry, Jon, if you stick around F'book long enough you can spend your weekends deleting unsolicited email or trying to figure out why your browser keeps jumping over to JennyGetsOnTop.Com.

Posted by David Saks ((retired)) over 8 years ago

I am all for open architecture, but Facebook is somewhat like a safehouse for malware. However, I do have to echo the others here who say that if you elimate Facebook (not going to happen) you don't get rid of the problem. 

Posted by J. Philip Faranda, Broker-Owner (J. Philip Faranda (J. Philip R.E. LLC) Westchester County NY) over 8 years ago

Being on Facebook, reviewing it or using it are different animals, Chuck. Read #38. I don't have an account, never had one and don't want one. I've spent a great deal of time looking at the program, not as a subscriber. It's unsafe and uncivil.

Posted by David Saks ((retired)) over 8 years ago

Facebook has really went downhill within the last month. However, before all the pronography that has been sent all over it, I had great success from people messaging regards into real estate. I hope facebook management can get the problem resolved or they will lose a lot of people on there. 

Posted by John Wingate, Salisbury MD Real Estate, 302.339.5185, Salisbury, MD Homes (EXIT Shore Realty) over 8 years ago

To protect oneself from the potential, perceived and real threats in F'book one almost has to put on a bulletproof vest before entering, Robert.

Posted by David Saks ((retired)) over 8 years ago

I will continue to enjoy my FB account, the relationships I've built with other real estate agents, and, more importantly, the leads I've received and the deals I've closed because of my activity there. I have never had a virus problem, never had a spam problem - never had a problem at all.  But, to each his/her own.  FB, just like any other social media platform will always be targeted by spammers and hackers. It how a person handles those things and educates themselves that is the key.

Posted by Emmary Simpson, Serving Las Cruces, NM (Las Cruces Homes and Land) over 8 years ago

It's a crumbling brickhouse, J.Philip .

Posted by David Saks ((retired)) over 8 years ago

John. more are leaving everyday.

Posted by David Saks ((retired)) over 8 years ago

Can I send you some pom poms and hire a marching band for you, Emmary ?

Posted by David Saks ((retired)) over 8 years ago

This is certainly a controversial posts but they are fun to read because they challenge us to think and there is nothing wrong with that!

As a past veteran of the IT industry in a past life, this is ultimately not a facebook issue.  It is a technology issue.  Nothing is immune and this is more true than ever as the world grows interconnected with the internet and smartphones in particular.  Not PC's, Macs, handhelds, tablets, smartphones, media center household stereos, TV, Tivos, game systems, nothing.  Ultimately, someone is trying to hack everything that gets out there and the more popular the item or site is, the more likely someone will succeed.  Security experts in the IT field in particular have been fighting this battle for years and I can tell you right now, it is a very difficult battle even in the best of networks.  

We ultimately can either take advantage of technology and do our best to protect our resources with technology and using good sense or we can avoid it.  To each his own on that decision.

However, Facebook and many of these other means of communication have been fantastic for meeting other people and building relationships.  It never ceases to amaze me how easy it is to network with social media if fostered properly and work with buyers of property.  I consider it an invaluable tool that is only growing!

Good luck to all on whatever path you choose!

 

Posted by Frank Iglesias, Atlanta, GA Real Estate Investor (Working With Houses, LLC - Atlanta Real Estate Investments) over 8 years ago

It's a good thing that we can each make our own decisions about using Facebook or not using Facebook - personally i like Facebook  and useit all the time...think Lisa is right - it is an internet problem and do you intend to not use the internet?  You can run but you can't hide.......by the way a lot of people simply aren't online and therefore have no probelm with Facebook.

Posted by Miriam Bernstein, CRS over 8 years ago

F'book is prolix with rhetoric, tautologic in character, redundant in delivery Frank, and creates mental weariness. It's "cyber-billboard" heaven.

Posted by David Saks ((retired)) over 8 years ago

David - the smarmy, sarcastic responses to people who politely disagree with your stance demeans your argument.  You've written what you assuredly knew would be a controversial post, you had to anticipate some dissent.

If you're looking for conversation, then have a conversation.  If you're just looking to rant, then you should probably disable comments.

Posted by Alan May, Helping you find your way home. (Jameson Sotheby's International Realty) over 8 years ago

I love it....I have NO business presence on it, I strictly play with old friends and my children. I love sharing the days and pictures of friends from college that are now on opposite sides of the country. I do not play any games and never take those quizes and other things. I never allow FB apps access....so I've had no problems.

Posted by Karen Fiddler, Broker/Owner, Orange County & Lake Arrowhead, CA (949)510-2395 (Karen Parsons-Fiddler, Broker 949-510-2395) over 8 years ago

Ask the thousands of parents of the children, who use the program, that ended up with pornography in their inboxes whose problem they think it is, Miriam. If an intruder forces their way into your home, and exposes himself, is it the door knob manufacturers problem because the intruder was able to pick the lock ? Or the window manufacturers problem because he flipped the latch ? I think not. Cyber assaults are carried out by malicious criminals that hide behind their hardware and software. F'book is vulnerable to these attacks and so are their users.

Posted by David Saks ((retired)) over 8 years ago

Alan, I make no apologies for my position, nor must I replicate for your perusal prior affront. I've met my responsibility by replying to each and every comment. You're demonstrably hypocritical with your loud, bombastic declamation and strong emotion about what I should or should not do.

Posted by David Saks ((retired)) over 8 years ago

Karen, join the squad with Emmary #52.

Posted by David Saks ((retired)) over 8 years ago
Hi David. Interestingly hostile view of a website you have never used... You are certainly titled to your opinion, but to trash the site for a little unfortunate spam? Anyway, good luck in all that you do! Ken
Posted by Ken Tracy, Helping clients buy and sell since 2005 (Coldwell Banker Residential) over 8 years ago

Ken, did you read the last paragraph ? A little unfortunate spam ? Only a handful of AR members have posted to this blog entry with their denials of issues. For one thing, most of the users posting here are responsible adults who put security protocols in place; not thirteen year old Smurf fans who just push buttons on the keyboard and open every attachment that arrives in the inbox. Media reporting around the world is claiming that hunreds of thousands if not millions were affected by this attack. Quote, "Facebook had confirmed the problem November 15th and assented that the gore-porn-linkspam exploit is a coordinated attack ". (ZD NEt) Thanks for commenting.

Posted by David Saks ((retired)) over 8 years ago
David - I wasn't suggesting that you apologize, merely scale it back a touch if you want a meaningful conversation.  Clearly, that's not what you're looking for.  Nor was I looking for "replication for my perusal prior affront" (whatever the heck that means)!
 
I don't see how telling you that "sarcasm belittles your argument" is hypocritical, nor did I feel my comment was loud, bombastic, nor emotional ... but hey, logic doesn't seem to be in full force here anyway.
 
But thanks for demonstrating exactly the type of sarcastic attack that dillutes your argument.
 

<< Alan, I make no apologies for my position, nor must I replicate for your perusal prior affront. I've met my responsibility by replying to each and every comment. You're demonstrably hypocritical with your loud, bombastic declamation and strong emotion about what I should or should not do. >>

Posted by Alan May, Helping you find your way home. (Jameson Sotheby's International Realty) over 8 years ago

 Alan said".....logic doesn't seem to be in full force here anyway." 

Are you a Mensa Society card carrying member, Alan ?

I'd like to recommend a good book for you. Post your book review on F'book, and many thanks for your cleverly cloaked insult.

 

Posted by David Saks ((retired)) over 8 years ago

I have also never had the issues with viruses but perhaps that is because I run a Mac? I also have set my settings to make FB more secure. I forget how it is done because it was along time ago but there is a way. I do definatly see the bad in FB even though I still like it!

Posted by Rosalie Evans, The Evans Group, Sioux Falls, SD Homes For Sale (Meritus Group Real Estate) over 8 years ago

Thanks for posting, Rosalie. Nice to hear from you.

Posted by David Saks ((retired)) over 8 years ago

No problems here with FaceBook. No sign of any of the issue you refer to. But I do not click on many links in posts, especially those that are obviously not sent by the FaceBook friend. The one about FaceBook getting ready to charge a fee is an example. But I seldom have seen so much rage here. Especially since you say you have never used FaceBook and never had an account with them. So it is impossible that they have harmed you personally.  That part does not make sense. Sorry you feel that way.

Posted by John Elwell, You Deserve a Full-Time Agent, Not Reduced Results (CENTURY 21 Bill Nye Realty, Inc.) over 8 years ago

I disagree with you, John. There are no expressions of rage here. It's an attempt to come to terms with what's practical and what isn't. Things that are practical are guided by wisdom and experience. Things that aren't are guided by theory. F'book users theorize that F'book is practical. F'book's been around for a short period of time, which leaves experience out of the equation. There are safer, better, more rewarding programs than F'book. You have to do your homework to find them. ActiveRain is one of those programs. Thanks for posting.

Posted by David Saks ((retired)) over 8 years ago

Hi David,  I agree with your premise but cringe a little at the dismissive attitude towards those less critical of the platform than you.  Just sayin'

Posted by Bill Gillhespy, Fort Myers Beach Realtor, Fort Myers Beach Agent - Homes & Condos (16 Sunview Blvd) over 8 years ago

David, you are right - it's been a root for many spams. I remember those myspace days....and hope facebook does not go that way!

Posted by Praful Thakkar, Andover, MA: Andover Luxury Homes For Sale (LAER Realty Partners) over 8 years ago

Hi David.  Thanks for responding...

But why do you care so much?  You are so passionate.  Put that passion to work selling homes or curing cancer...

I love Facebook.  I think it is the most important website out there, period.  Cyber attacks are unfortunate, but not a reason to ignore a prime method of communication.

Just my .02,

Ken

Posted by Ken Tracy, Helping clients buy and sell since 2005 (Coldwell Banker Residential) over 8 years ago

It was only a matter of time before the hackers cowards passive-aggressive power-hungry programmers of the world started to hit FB.  If the brains behind FB can't fight them, though, then that is truly a problem.  I mean, FB was created by someone with as much moxy as a hacker, was it not?

Posted by Kathryn Acciari, Brand Ambassador and Business Coach (Century 21 Real Estate) over 8 years ago

I don't use Facebook much, but my 23 year old daughter lives on it.

She called me at 3:00 am this morning, crying - her FB page got hacked or something, there is someone else posing as her, all new pics, private email address is public, etc.  I told her to call her sister, who would fix it or at least care.  And she did.  At 3:01 in the morning.

When I woke up this morning, and remembered that she was on my home computer last night, no doubt on FB, I started to worry about my computer..

 

Posted by Virginia Hepp - Mesquite NV REALTOR, Mesquite NV Homes and Neighborhoods - Search MLS (Desert Gold Realty - Mesquite NV Homes For Sale) over 8 years ago

I hhave never had this pronlem with face book and I am on it daily

Posted by Jack O'Neal (HomeSmart Elite Group) over 8 years ago

I have to say that I don't use it that much and i don't really like it, and I never have time to read what everybody is doing.

Posted by Brian Madigan, LL.B., Broker (RE/MAX West Realty Inc., Brokerage (Toronto)) over 8 years ago

Thanks for the note, Bill G. Dismissive about proselytizing for F'Book, perhaps, but hardly about ignoring the criticism.

Posted by David Saks ((retired)) over 8 years ago

David, thank you for speaking out on this important topic. I enjoyed reading your post, and though not a software programmer (know very little) from experience, I do not like Fbook. I had a Fbook account and deleted it more than two years ago. I was hacked then, with malicious software that eventually claimed my laptop. I really got tired of all the Farmville requests--such a silly game, and which I found shocking so many adults were playing. Don't these people have jobs? Or maybe Fbook is their job. 

No one in my household is allowed to have a Fbook account. I am thankful I put that rule in to place, because I'd be very distressed right now if my children were assaulted by these recent pornographic images and hate violence. 

It takes courage to write this post, as can be seen by reading the comments--it goes against the grain of popular culture. It does seem to be a trend on ActiveRain lately, of members with lots of points and features, telling other bloggers how to blog--what they should or shouldn't do. I don't think you have been out of line at all here, but communicating rationally your viewpoint. I'm glad you give a thumbs up for ActiveRain--it's truly my favorite social media site.  

Posted by Pamela Seley, Residential Real Estate Agent serving SW RivCo CA (West Coast Realty Division) over 8 years ago

Agreed. Praful. Nice to hear from you.

Posted by David Saks ((retired)) over 8 years ago

Ken, I appreciate your comment. F'book is an open sea full of pirates, vagabonds, cyber terrorists, sexual predators, stalkers and only the almighty knows what else lurks within it's framework. It would be safe to surmise, albeit incomplete evidence, that millions of children are involved with it and it's networking application, much more so to the chagrin of their parents or guardians. News reports are heard routinely about youngsters that have been exploited on F'Book, news about jilted lovers who have turned violent, news about suicides which are the tragic result of cyber bullying, news about terror cells that post their itinerary to their constituents, news about occupational fraud and deception that originates there, news about illegal drug deals that take place, news about swindling for goods and services, and news about pedophiles posing as thirteen year olds in an attempt to engage in a tryst with a child. The best thing any adult could do to demonstrate integrity through example is to speak firmly with your children before you allow them to use F'book. Or even better, demonstrate that it isn't necessary. I'll direct my passion, for the moment, towards eliminating F'book from any list that extols it as a program that attests to moral soundness. Commerce which attempts to do so within it's walls bears the hypocrisy of it's system if F'book's intention has been to operate under such aegis.

Posted by David Saks ((retired)) over 8 years ago

David, I take it your goal today wasn't to win any friends or subscribers?  Alan's one of the most rational folks I know in this community and was just offering some friendly advice.  You're burning bridges with folks that had no beef with you, but merely have a differing viewpoint.  If you feel obligated to respond to each paragraph, I can respect that.  But if the only response is sarcastic, please do us both a favor and just pretend my comment doesn't exist.

Posted by Liz and Bill Spear, RE/MAX Elite Warren County OH (Cincinnati/Dayton) (RE/MAX Elite 513.520.5305 www.LizTour.com) over 8 years ago

One of the main reasons it was created was for advertising revenue, Kathryn, originally by students who frequented old bulletin board-type networking platforms used for gossip. Nothing could have been easier for a hacker with a little knowledge of dynamic hyper text markup language or any set of rudimentary codes that are used for object linking and embedding. These are source codes that could be inserted into text files which refer to special type faces, images, or links to other documents. It was effortless.

Posted by David Saks ((retired)) over 8 years ago

Fine comment, Virginia. Great illustrative example of the pandemic nature of a real problem.

Posted by David Saks ((retired)) over 8 years ago

Nice to hear, Jack.

Posted by David Saks ((retired)) over 8 years ago

Nice to hear from you, Brian. I'd be hard pressed to find time for it, even during a vacation.

Posted by David Saks ((retired)) over 8 years ago

You're a bright voice of reason, Pamela, and I'm honored by your kind remarks and intellectual depth. It's come to my attention that one of the most popular games on F'book is called "Mafia Wars" where paricipants kill each other in a virtual environment and launder money on drug cartles, prostitution and gambling, eventually moving up the ranks from soldiers in the Mafia to Capo's or bosses. I can hear some child loudly proclaiming, "Hey Mom, I'm the boss of organized crime in Mafia Wars".... a splendid accomplishment and achievement !

Posted by David Saks ((retired)) over 8 years ago

Well, Liz and Bill, let's face it, you can't be everybody's friend and I'm not competing in a popularity contest. Dale Carnegie's book wasn't on my mind when I wrote the entry and I didn't post it for the points, and didn't receive any, because I exceeded that quota long ago this past week. You, as Alan, will find it much more productive by subscribing to insight instead of insult. Consider my reply an obligation and not a favor if you view my prior remarks merely as caustic language used to convey scorn. That is scarcely my intention here. This, perhaps, may not have been a classroom you should have taken a seat in. Come back after you've read all of the comments, not just merely the ones that you believe were wrongfully besmirched. And have a nice day.

....addenda...just discovered that this is a featured post and that I was awarded 225 points. Many thanks to my friends with ActiveRain Corp. for the fine privilege. Hope for many more great years ahead...and Very Happy Holidays to all ! DS

Posted by David Saks ((retired)) over 8 years ago

well, if nothing, this post and comments were at least interesting.

Posted by Danny Dietl, Buy, Sell, Lease - iMetroProperty.com (www.dannyrealestate.com) over 8 years ago

Thank you for your marvelously extraordinary insight, and your valuable and most illuminating comment, Danny. Eagerly looking forward to your next thoughtful entry which will establish and validate your great skill which will also demonstrate clearly the expertise you have so rightly earned as a competent and dedicated real estate professional. And have a nice day.

Posted by David Saks ((retired)) over 8 years ago

Firstly, I never have received any business from FB, although I didn't set out to get any.

I'm not sure if I've been a victim of attacks or not. I did recently have a virus attack my computer although I've never allowed a FB app permission to access my computer.I mostly use FB as a tool to keep in touch with my HS and college friends who mostly live 1,200 miles away from me on the east coast.

What's most relevant for me though (and I've been discussing this with friends) is that since the last format change FB seems... boring. I have over 300 friends and my wall is crowded with the same 10 - 15 people every day. Some of them are good friends but some FB has selected as good friends for me because I happened to comment on a couple of their posts. Now I'm supposed to go to each friend and select whether they're in the "inner sanctum" so I can see more of what they do?

I preferred the old format, however what I'm finding is that although FB is the first social network embraced by those of us who are over 40, it is still must really be for kids, who want regular change and who can spend the hours required to learn to navigate a modified site every time FB gets a wild hair and decides to change.

Finally, as a former Advertising Exec, I'm appalled at the ads now placed within people's status on my wall. I realize I get FB for free but I thought everyone over there was already a mullti-billionaire?!File that under, just because it CAN be done doesn't mean it SHOULD be done.

Bottom line: I'm losing interest; not because of spam or danger but because the product itself is becoming less relevant in my life.

 

Posted by Nate Gerard, CDPE, East Metro Twin Cities Realtor (Keller Williams Premier) over 8 years ago

I've noticed recently Nate, that when I hear the F'book word that I'm overcome with bouts of headache and a desire to read in the bathroom for long periods of time. The only things that seems to help, strangely enough, are when old reruns of the Monkees are on television.

Posted by David Saks ((retired)) over 8 years ago

David,

I use and enjoy facebook and didn't get a single one of those posts this week, or any other.  I believe it is because I don't use any of the apps that are optional.  I think they are where the hacking occurs and the spam comes from.  I do have good anti-malware on my computer as well.  Differn't strokes? 

Posted by Marge Piwowarski, Phoenix AZ Horse Property, LLC (Phoenix AZ Horse Property) over 8 years ago

David, my short comment was all that came to mind after reading your rant. You are very mean spirited. It is very curious that you are so interested in something you claim to have no interest in. If FB works for people then let it work for people. Maybe I could write a post about how awesome FB is and then leave snarky, sarcastic comments when people disagree. Sounds productive. Have a wonderful day as well.

Posted by Danny Dietl, Buy, Sell, Lease - iMetroProperty.com (www.dannyrealestate.com) over 8 years ago

You know something, Danny, about one out of twenty remarks in any controversial post are these curmudgeonly, brusque, surly and forbidding comments like yours, that, oddly enough, resemble Mr.Potter's character in "It's A Wonderful Life". I'm used to it after all these years of blogging. I can flush them out of the woodpile before they infect the blog. Regardless of what I had said, you'd have returned with some flap down, second-rate attitude. The "...if nothing" slant in #94 brushes the rest of the post and it's comments aside in a crusty, gruff, ill-humored manner. The only interest I have in F'book is protecting my family, friends and colleagues from it, and from hit and run bloggers like you who endorse it. If successful, irascible cantankerous people full of stubborn ideas are rendered harmless and I've succeeded. Just in case you forgot, this post isn't about promoting F'book. It's about trashing that dirtpile and it's dangers. It's a menace to society. That's my opinion, so start your own blog post about all of it's great benefits. Maybe Zuckerberg'll notice that you have talent and give you a job. And have a wonderful life.

Posted by David Saks ((retired)) over 8 years ago

Just groovy, Marge. But as for me, I'll continue to avoid it like the plague, and more so since a pandemic viral eruption slammed it's users and created a high computer death rate.

Posted by David Saks ((retired)) over 8 years ago

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